Thursday, February 16, 2012

A little diddy about Venus in Scorpio

Several times now, I've mentioned the fact that I have a serious thing for girls with Venus in Scorpio.  This even caused me perplexity (recently) when this normal pattern failed in the case of Michelle Williams.  It was even more daunting in the teeth of the fact that the software apps claimed I should like her, and I could understand why.  In a double blind comparison of her chart and my chart, I would rate the two natives high versus each other.

Several have dropped me notes asking "Just what the hell is the big deal about Venus in Scorpio, and why do you like it?" One even mentioned that Venus is at home in Taurus, and in determent in Scorpio.  Yes, this is true.  Venus rules Taurus, and is in fabulous shape there.  Scorpio is 180 degrees away.  The theory holds that the planet is never more weakly expressed than when it is furthest away from the sign it rules.  It should also be noted that Libra (the other sign Venus rules) is right next door to Scorpio.  What does that do to the theory?  Not sure.

What is the significance of Venus in determent in Scorpio?  The bullet point says that such an individual is an obsessive serial seducer.  These individuals are intense, sensual, physical, passionate, and have a very high sex drive.  They have a difficult time verbalizing their feelings and needs.  However, they are extremely physically demonstrative, and act out their feelings and needs aggressively.  They are semi-psychic and can read their partners moods and expressions like a book

The obsessive serial seducer line is disputed by many authorities, who site that Scorpio is a fixed, femme, water sign that wants intense union with one individual.  However, there are some problems with desire for intensity of union on this level.  One question that automatically comes to mind is this: With passion this intense, can any partner satisfy?  Can anyone quench this raging fire?  If the answer is no, the Scorpio Venusian will step out looking to satisfy those unrequited needs... and usually fail... setting up a chain of failures.

Both of the two major sofware programs I own have interesting interpretations of this setting.  The following text comes from the Chart of Patti Smith, the famous rock diva, whom I will address in a moment.

From Sirius 1.1

    In love, you desire a deep, intense, passionate union with your beloved and form very strong emotional bonds and attachments. You "marry" the person you love at a very deep emotional level, and are often extremely possessive and jealous of any threat to that union. You can be very demanding with your love partner. You tend to be somewhat suspicious of even platonic, friendly relationships your partner has. If you are ever betrayed, you are capable of hating with as much force and intensity as you once loved. You are attracted to people who have an aura of mystery about them.
     You crave very intense, deep, emotional relationships, and would even prefer a stormy, tumultuous relationship to one which is smooth but lacking vitality and passion. You love wholeheartedly and expect all-consuming, total devotion and attention from your partner. Casual, light relationships hold no appeal for you.

From Janus 4.3

You have an all or nothing attitude when it comes to love. It is not unusual for you to experience the extremes of deep passion and cool indifference in romantic affairs. Difficulties in love can arise through emotional manipulation, power struggles or jealousy.
Do I see a warning here? Is there justification for saying that Venus is in detriment when in Scorpio? Maybe, but there is a brilliant side to this sign that never ceases to ignite my fire.

To help you see the positive side of this sign, consider one of the greatest rock masterpieces of all time Because the Night, written by Patti Smith. Patti Smith was born December 30th, 1946, which makes her a solar Capricorn.  She also happens to have that Venus in Scorpio thing  I like so much.  These folks are said to have problems in communicating their wants and needs.  Not this woman.  It must be the Capricorn in her.

If you ask me this the single most passionate and powerful rock anthem I've ever heard in my entire life.  Now, I happen to be a natural born sucker for a Capricorn woman, and especially one with a Venus in Scorpio, so you can understand that it is all I can to fight off the full-scale werewolf transformation and prevent a beast-mode attack when I hear this track.  If this song doesn't make you burn at 45,000,000 degrees Celsius, there is something seriously wrong with your pheromone receptors.

Listen to this track two or three times through whilst reading the lyrics, and you will achieve a far deeper understanding of Venus in Scorpio.  This is what it is to have a woman with Venus in Scorpio.  This is a woman with Venus in Scorpio expressing her passion.  That's just fine with me, Jack.

Here are the lyrics for your edification.

Take me now baby here as I am 
Pull me close, try and understand 
Desire is hunger is the fire I breathe 
Love is a banquet on which we feed 

Come on now try and understand 
The way I feel when I'm in your hands 
Take my hand come undercover 
They can't hurt you now, 
Can't hurt you now, can't hurt you now 

Because the night belongs to lovers 
Because the night belongs to lust 
Because the night belongs to lovers 
Because the night belongs to us 

Have I doubt when I'm alone 
Love is a ring, the telephone 
Love is an angel disguised as lust 
Here in our bed until the morning comes 

Come on now try and understand 
The way I feel under your command 
Take my hand as the sun descends 
They can't touch you now, 

Can't touch you now, can't touch you now 
Because the night belongs to lovers ... 
With love we sleep 
With doubt the vicious circle 
Turn and burns 
Without you I cannot live 
Forgive, the yearning burning 
I believe it's time, too real to feel 
So touch me now, touch me now, touch me now 

Because the night belongs to lovers ... 
Because tonight there are two lovers 
If we believe in the night we trust 
Because tonight there are two lovers ...
You know, I happen to know a 1975 Capricorn woman with a Venus in Scorpio. I love her to death. Were she single, I would marry her in heart beat. She drives me nuts. She has done so for some 5 years now. The fact that she married 2 months prior to our meeting is one of the great historical disappointments of my life.  Nevertheless, this is a complete lost cause, and write-off.  She's rock-solid in her marriage.  She won't budge.  I would be terribly disappointed in her if she did.

I passed her in the hallway the other day, and I got a good whiff of her as we saluted each other in the morning.  I experienced an immediate bio-chemical head-rush.  It was all I could do to fight off the werewolf transformation.  I almost went into beast mode right there.  People have little appreciation for how much pheromones impact the situation.

On the flip side there are problems.  I know a Taurus woman (whom I sent flowers) with Venus in Scorpio (I mistakenly said Mars at the time).  She issued no response at all to my gesture.  I see her several times a month at work.  It's terribly awkward.  At the time, I was terribly disappointed, but the gossip I've heard since that time makes me think I was protected by God.

Several buds have told me that she's been married and divorced; carried on affairs with guys in solid relationships; broken them off and sworn undying hatred for the guy; shows big emotional outbursts.  They say she's high maintenance, and hard to please.  That sounds something like Venus in Detriment in Scorpio to me.

You have to wipe the sweat off your brow after hearing these stories, and count yourself lucky.  It's probably for the best that she did not respond to me.

Nevertheless, I see that same passionate nature in this woman.  It just isn't well tempered with the super-discipline of Capricorn.  It might be re-enforced by Taurus and even stronger in her than either of these other two cases.  I sent her Carnations because Carnations indicate fascination.  Fascination was the correct message to send.  She does fascinate me.

We'll see if I ever wind up with such a woman.  La-La, the theoretically perfect Pisces, does not have Venus in Scorpio.  She has Venus in Aries.  The Top-Aries woman has Venus in Pisces.  Incidentally, Venus is exalted in Pisces.  Venus is never better than in Pisces.  Unfortunately, Pisces does not go well with my twin-Leos.