Showing posts with label NFL Draft History. Show all posts
Showing posts with label NFL Draft History. Show all posts

Thursday, April 1, 2010

I demand a recount! Quarterbacks in the 1st round over the past 30 years.

I made the following statement many times on my blog: Quarterbacks selected in the 1st round have only a 33% chance of success in the NFL. This is based on the assessment that 33% of the QBs selected in the 1st round over the past 30 years were ultimately successful in the NFL.

Well, I am afraid I must print a retraction. I was wrong. It's worse than I originally thought. I collected the data afresh, and reconsidered the information I found there. After serious consideration, and a fresh recount, the score is as follows. Quarterbacks were selected between 1979 and 2007. Of those 67, 20 were ultimately successful, 39 were busts, 8 were fair-to-middlin' journeymen in the league. This means the following:
  • 29.85% of the quarterbacks selected in the 1st round were successful
  • 58.21% were all-out busts
  • 11.94% were middle-of-the-road journeymen
This is bad, very bad. I don't wish to labor the point anymore. Instead, I want to publish the raw table of information, so you yourself can consider the merits of my assessment.

# Name School Year Team Overall Rating
1 Jack Thompason Washington State 1979 Bengals 3 Bust
2 Phil Simms Morehead State 1979 Giants 7 Success
3 Steve Fuller Clemson 1979 Chiefs 23 Bust
4 Marc Wilson BYU 1980 Raiders 15 Bust
5 Mark Malone Arizona State 1980 Steelers 28 Bust
6 Rich Campbell California 1981 Packers 6 Bust
7 Dave Wilson Illinois 1981 Saints Supplemental Bust
8 Art Schlichter Ohio State 1982 Colts 4 Bust
9 Jim McMahon BYU 1982 Bears 5 Success
10 John Elway Stanford 1983 Colts 1 Success
11 Todd Blackledge Penn State 1983 Chiefs 7 Bust
12 Jim Kelly Miami 1983 Bills 14 Success
13 Tony Eason Illinois 1983 Patriots 15 Bust
14 Ken O'Brien UC Davis 1983 Jets 24 Success
15 Dan Marino Pittsburg 1983 Dolphins 27 Success
16 Bernie Kosar Miami 1985 Browns Supplemental Success
17 Jim Everett Purdue 1986 Oilers 3 Success
18 Chuck Long Iowa 1986 Lions 12 Bust
19 Vinny Testaverde Miami 1987 Buccaneers 1 Middle
20 Kelly Stouffer Colorado State 1987 Cardinals 6 Bust
21 Chris Miller Oregon 1987 Falcons 13 Success
22 Jim Harbaugh Michigan 1987 Bears 26 Middle
23 Troy Aikman UCLA 1989 Cowboys 1 Success
24 Steve Walsh Miami 1989 Cowboys Supplemental Bust
25 Timm Rosenbach Washington State 1989 Cardinals Supplemental Bust
26 Jeff George Illinois 1990 Colts 1 Bust
27 Andre Ware Houston 1990 Lions 7 Bust
28 Dan McGwire San Diego State 1991 Seahawks 16 Bust
29 Todd Marinovich USC 1991 Raiders 24 Bust
30 David Klingler Houston 1992 Bengals 6 Bust
31 Tommy Maddox UCLA 1992 Broncos 25 Bust
32 Dave Brown Duke 1992 Giants Supplemental Bust
33 Drew Bledsoe Washington State 1993 Patriots 1 Success
34 Rick Mirer Notre Dame 1993 Seahawks 2 Bust
35 Heath Shuler Tennessee 1994 Redskins 3 Bust
36 Trent Dilfer Fresno State 1994 Buccaneers 6 Middle
37 Steve McNair Alcorn State 1995 Oilers 3 Success
38 Kerry Colins Penn State 1995 Panthers 5 Middle
39 Jim Druckenmiller Virgina Tech 1997 49ers 26 Bust
40 Peyton Manning Tennessee 1998 Colts 1 Success
41 Ryan Leaf Washington State 1998 Chargers 2 Bust
42 Tim Couch Kentucky 1999 Browns 1 Bust
43 Donovan McNabb Syracuse 1999 Eagles 2 Success
44 Akili Smith Oregon 1999 Bengals 3 Bust
45 Daunte Culpepper Central Florida 1999 Vikings 11 Bust
46 Cade McNown UCLA 1999 Bears 12 Bust
47 Chad Pennington Marshall 2000 Jets 18 Middle
48 Michael Vick Virgina Tech 2001 Falcons 1 Middle
49 David Carr Fresno State 2002 Texans 1 Bust
50 Joey Harrington Oregon 2002 Lions 3 Bust
51 Patrick Ramsey Tulane 2002 Redskins 32 Bust
52 Carson Palmer USC 2003 Bengals 1 Middle
53 Byron Leftwich Marshall 2003 Jaguars 7 Bust
54 Kyle Boller California 2003 Ravens 19 Bust
55 Rex Grossman Florida 2003 Bears 22 Bust
56 Eli Manning Ole Miss 2004 Chargers 1 Success
57 Philip Rivers North Carolina State 2004 Giants 4 Success
58 Ben Roethlisberger Miami of Ohio 2004 Steelers 11 Success
59 J.P. Losman Tulane 2004 Bills 22 Bust
60 Alex Smith Utah 2005 49ers 1 Bust
61 Aaron Rodgers California 2005 Packers 24 Success
62 Jason Campbell Alburn 2005 Redskins 25 Bust
63 Vince Young Texas 2006 Titans 3 Success
64 Matt Leinart USC 2006 Cardinals 10 Middle
65 Jay Cutler Vanderbilt 2006 Broncos 11 Success
66 JaMarcus Russell LSU 2007 Raiders 1 Bust
67 Brady Quinn Notre Dame 2007 Browns 22 Bust
39 20 8
58.21% 29.85% 11.94%




Honestly, I see only one disputable case on this list. I rank Carson Palmer as a middle guy. Bengals fans would complain. The fact is that he sat for year to start his career. Things looked good for a short time. Then the knee injury struck. Things have not been the same since. The Bengals' passing attack fell precipitously last year. Many are asking questions.



Monday, March 1, 2010

I want Mel Kiper Jr.'s video track record on YouTube.com

Memo to ESPN:

In the spirit of full disclosure, transparency and accountability, I would like you to dig up the video tapes of Mel Kiper Jr.'s reviews and ratings on the following Quarterback candidates for the NFL draft:
  1. David Kilingler Bengals 1992
  2. Tommy Maddox Broncos 1992
  3. Dave Brown Giants 1992
  4. Rick Mirer Seahawks 1993
  5. Heath Shuler Redskins 1994
  6. Jim Druckenmiller 49ers 1997
  7. Ryan Leaf Chargers 1998
  8. Tim Couch Browns 1999
  9. Akili Smith Bengals 1999
  10. Cade McNown Bears 1999
  11. David Carr Texans 2002
  12. Joey Harrington Lions 2002
  13. Patrick Ramsey Redskins 2002
  14. Byron Leftwich Jaguars 2003
  15. Kyle Boller Ravens 2003
  16. Rex Grossman Bears 2003
  17. J.P. Losman Bills 2004
  18. Alex Smith 49ers 2005
  19. Jason Campbell Redskins 2005
  20. JaMarcus Russell Raiders 2007
  21. Brady Quinn Browns 2007
I would have expected someone to have posted these videos on the YouTube.com already, but such is not the case. I looked hard, but could find no trace of these videos. Has the record been expunged? Did someone post a few of these embaressing videos? Did you order YouTube.com to remove these videos for copyright violations?

If Mel Kiper Jr. is as good as you pretend he is, then you have nothing to hide. You can post these historical videos proudly as a sign of confidence in Kiper's ability to detect and warn the NFL of dud quarterbacks. He will provide us with the correct diagnostic. On the other hand, if Mel Kiper Jr. is what I say he is--the Pastor Benny Hinn of the NFL Draft--he will probably say some things in those videos that would cause NFL fans to howl with laughter in retrospect.

I seem to recall glowing praise for some QBs like Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch and David Carr. Hearing the words of Kiper once again on names such as those listed above might prove extremely damaging to Mel Kiper Jr.'s status as the doyen of draft gurus.

Reliving the words of Kiper Jr. will be highly instructional in this fine year of 2010 when your cohort are driving the stock of a fellow like Jimmy Clausen way up the board. Reliving the words of Kiper regarding these legendary busts in NFL Draft history would provide us with a grain of salt to temper current words of praise for future busts.

Wednesday, February 24, 2010

The only time it ever worked out, Dallas and Troy Aikman





Each and every year, a team fresh off a disastrous season selects #1 overall in the NFL Draft. This fine year of 2010, that team is is my Rams. Many times, this team fresh off of disaster elects a quarterback with that first overall pick in the draft. When they do so, they are full of hopes and dreams that this guy will turn the ship around, raise the fortunes of the team, lead them to many Super Bowl victories, and make a dynasty out of a poor team. The young man is anointed as the savior of the franchise.

How often does it work out? I can find only one clear-cut case in NFL history where it did work out. That fellow was Troy Aikman of UCLA, selected #1 overall by the Dallas Cowboys in the 1989 NFL Draft.

It wasn't Terry Bradshaw. He was considered a bust for a bunch of seasons before the 1978 rules changes, changed his fortunes as a passer. He still threw about 27 TDs and 24 Ints per season after that.

We also have problems with Peyton Manning here, but the Colts cannot truly be considered a dynasty at this point. They have a bunch of good seasons, but only 1 Super Bowl victory. Peyton could still lock down a couple more rings before he is done. If so, we will be able to say that there were two clear cut cases, but at this moment there is only one.

What about John Elway? Did that really work out for the Colts who drafted him? No.

What about Jim Plunkett? Did that really work out for the Patriots who drafted him? Hummmm... Nah, not really. It worked okay for the Raiders... eventually.

What about Eli Manning? Did that work out for the Chargers who took him? No.

What about Michael Vick? Aaaahhhh... How do you think the Falcons view that pick now?

How about JaMarcus Russell?

No folks, there is only one clear cut case where drafting a QB at the top of the first round ever produced a savior, a Hall Of Famer, multi-championship dynasty, and everything the organization ever wanted when they took the guy. That was Troy Aikman.

This is the reason why Aikman is still the Golden Boy of the NFL. This is why he is revered as a god-like QB by all those who watched his career. This is why people keep wondering if he is going to run for president someday. They expect him to win, too.

Aikman shouldered the pressure of being the Dallas Cowboy QB and savior with little signs of stress. He took one hell of beating in his first year as a pro with few signs of injury. He survived with his confidence and his health intact. He was accepted by Cowboy greats like Roger Staubach immediately as another Cowboy great. He was at his best in the NFC Championship games and Super Bowls. He led the Cowboys on a tear through the 1990s. They won 3 Super Bowls in just 4 years. They would have had more, but the salary cap and poor head coaches killed them. Aikman was not the limiting factor in the equation at any time. He survived a nasty concussion administered by Dennis Brown. He never had a personal scandal during his entire life. He went into the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. He was one hell of player, and a better man.

As my Rams get ready to draft in this fine year of 2010, we need to ask ourselves a couple of very important questions:
  1. Is Sam Bradford Troy Aikman?
  2. Is Jimmy Clausen Troy Aikman?
  3. Is Sam Bradford Peyton Manning?
  4. Is Jimmy Clausen Peyton Manning?
I think the answers to 1 & 3 are clear and decisive "NO!" I rolled around on the floor laughing my ass off a few seconds ago when I wrote questions #2 and #4. Clausen is in no danger of being mistaken for Troy Aikman or Peyton Manning. Why don't you stand Clausen next to Aikman right now and see whether you notice some difference between these two men?

Some extremely foolish Ram fans may protest that I cannot downgrade these two candidates by comparing them to the most extreme cases of QB success in NFL history. Oh yeah? Why the hell not? You are talking about spending the #1 pick overall in the entire draft. We have only 1 and maybe 2 models of success for that pick. We need to use those two guys as the benchmark comparison for our candidates. If we don't have candidates that look like Aikman and Manning, we need to pass on them with that #1 pick.

One final thing. If you ask me which quarterback in this draft most resembles Aikman in terms of tangibles and intangibles, only one name comes to mind: Tim Tebow.

Is Bill Devaney right to disdain drafting a QB in the first round?

I'll give you a short answer and a long answer. The short answer is: Fuck yes!

I published a study of 28 years of NFL Draft history in 4 pieces right here on this website. The subject was the Quarterback position. 66 QBs were drafted in the 1st round over the 28 year period between 1979 and 2007. Only 22 of those men succeeded and became substantial franchise QBs. 6 of those players became middle-of-the-road, partial busts and partial success stories. They were journeymen of a sort. 38 of those players were all-out busts. Only twice did drafting a QB #1 overall workout for the team who took him: Cowboy Troy Aikman, and Colt Peyton Manning. Only once did selecting a QB as the top overall pick result in a dynasty. That was Aikman.

As you can see, the stats are pretty damn terrible. 22-38-6 is the record for taking quarterbacks in the 1st round. This record defines the probability tables. If you take a QB in the first round, you have only a 33% chance of getting a good one. If you take the QB at the top of the heap, it gets worse. If you reach for a QB at the top of the heap, it gets a lot worse. If you select a true junior QB in the first round, you have a 90% chance of losing before any other considerations.

You could stop right there and conclude that selecting a QB in the first round is a dumb idea. Of course, there are unique cases like Aikman and Manning. Everybody wants one of those. You might even be able to deal for a disgruntled Elway or Eli Manning. That is pretty good also. Unfortunately there are guys like Carr, Klingler, Russell, Ware, George, Couch, et al who can seriously trip you up.

The table says that there is a lot of risk. The scouts say that this is a bad QB year. Every QB in the draft has sizable knocks on him:
  • Bradford: Gracile and fragile, did not play much a senior. Has a surgically repaired shoulder. Will need a powerful offensive line to protect him. Comes out of a spread offense
  • Clausen: A true junior, and has a 90% chance of going bust. Had only 1 really productive year. Erratic footwork. Three-Quarter release of the football. Comes off as abrasive and egotistical.
  • McCoy: Too small. Has a modest arm. Injured in his last college game. Comes out of a spread offense.
  • Tebow: Comes out of a spread offense. Bad footwork. Long windup in his throwing motion. Does not have a quick release.
So there are your top 4 guys scheduled to be selected in the first 2 rounds. As I have said so many times before, the only one of those 4 guys I really and truly trust is Tim Tebow. I would take him in the 2nd round. After him it is Colt McCoy. I would take him in the 2nd round also. I like Bradford, but only for a team like the Jets with an all-pro offensive line. His draft stock is unfortunately high. His stars are poorly aligned. He will probably go to a team with a lousy line. This spells a lot of trouble for him in his career. I regret that.

When you sum up the lousy odds of getting a good QB in the first round, the poor crop of first round QBs in this years draft, the rich crop of later QBs, I think all NFL GMs are fully justified in rejecting the proposition of selecting a QB in the first round. There are stupid fans who would select any QB in the 1st round just because there is a need. That is an exceedingly stupid policy, and the kind of think that creates JaMarcus Russell stories.